Daniel Agger is a fantastic football player. Daniel Agger is slick and stylish on the ball. Daniel Agger, some say, is a modern-day Alan Hansen. But Daniel Agger gets injured, and gets injured a lot. The speculation is, Man City might be willing to pay £20 million plus for him. So the question is; does it make sense, financially or football-wise, to keep a player who in the last four seasons has started on average 18.5 leagues games per year? Furthermore, and a more pertinent question, is Daniel Agger more style over substance?
As I said above Agger averaged 18.5 starts per year over the last 4 seasons, Skrtel 26.75 starts and Carragher 30.5 starts. When you break that down into percentages of games played, it looks even paltrier. Percentages of games started: Agger = 48.68% | Skrtel = 70.39% | Carragher = 80.26%.
Based on time played alone, there is a serious question mark over whether you should keep a 27 year old player who is averaging playing less than half your league games each season. That is before we even consider football ability. But what of that football ability, compared to Carragher and Skrtel how do Agger’s statistics match up over these last four seasons?
Daniel Agger is not what you might call a battling centre back. He is not the type of defender that will fly into tackles, throw himself around the pitch and bully an opposition centre forward into submission. He is a defender who likes to stay on his feet, jockey a player, trying to nick the ball from him, or stand back and read the game and make a well-timed interception. Having said that let us take a look at his “battling accuracies”.
Remember these are averaged out over the last four Premiership seasons. The cells in red are those statistics which come out top on a certain row, with yellow being the worst statistic. It’s quite evident that Martin Skrtel has been our best battling defender over the last four years. He tops every statistic bar ‘Ground Duel Win %’. But we’re more concerned about Agger in this piece. And although we all ready mentioned he’s not that type of defender, nevertheless, it’s surprising he doesn’t come out top in more than one metric, particularly the final two metrics. In fact, only 56% of his total clearances are accurate, which is a lower percentage than both Carragher and Skrtel. For a player who’s known for being stylish and cultured you’d expect him to be more accurate in those last two stats on the table.
Of course, there’s more to being stylish and cultured than getting your clearances accurate. Passing accuracy being one. And as a ‘passing defender’ you’d expect him to be influential in those areas. How many times have we seen Daniel Agger striding from the back with the ball at his feet, gliding into the opposition half and slaloming between opposing players. And how many times have we seen Daniel Agger spray the ball out wide with a 60 yard pass to a team-mate hugging the touchline. A lot you might think. It is the quintessential Daniel Agger image burned into your brain. Well it doesn’t happen as often as you may think.
Agger is not the most accurate passer of our centre halves in focus, that crown goes to Skrtel with an 83.3% passing accuracy over the last four seasons. Neither is Agger our centre half who is most accurate with his long balls, again that is Skrtel with a 68% accuracy. And what about Agger striding from the back into the opposition half and setting up lightning attacks? Well Jaime Carragher has passed more often in the attacking half than Agger over the last four years. Attempting an attacking half pass every 4.39 minutes compared to Agger’s 5.19 minutes. So far, from both tables, and out of nine metrics analysed Agger only comes out a clear winner in one of them. I ask again; Daniel Agger; is he more style over substance?
From our ‘battling’ table above we know Agger is not the most accurate with his tackles, aerial duels and clearances etc. But what of his influence in this area? How often, per time spent on the pitch does he attempt one of these battling statistics? For a player more known for his passing ability than getting down and dirty with opponents you’d expect not very often. Well again, you’d be surprised.
Jaime Carragher certainly might be showing his age here, taking longer to be involved in 4 out of the 7 metrics anaylsed on the table. However, Daniel Agger has plenty of red in his column. You’d expect him to attempt an interception more often than his colleagues, as he does read the game from the back very well. Last year Agger recorded an interception every 36.29 minutes, of all central defenders to start 19 games or more last season only Roger Johnson (33.66), Antolin Alcaraz (33.45), Sylvain Distin (33.09), James Morrison (32.80) and Laurent Koscielny (31.58) made interceptions more often. But perhaps you wouldn’t expect Agger to be involved in ground duels, aerial duels and challenges more often than both Skrtel and Carragher, but he is. A little more substance than style from Daniel Agger here.
Along with passing statistics, what else would you expect Agger to thrive on, given the type of player he is. Possession; how often does Agger lose possession and win possession?
Agger won possession back last season in the defensive third every 30.15 minutes. Both Carragher and Skrtel won possession back in this area more often given the amount of time each spent on the pitch. Taking into account that Agger’s win percentages in ground duels and tackles etc (a big part of how you may win possession back as a defender) weren’t quite high maybe this is not so surprising. Agger comes out tops in the final metric, only losing possession every 9.82 minutes last season, compared to Jaime Carragher who lost possession every 8.33 minutes. An ability which could come in very useful in a Brendan Rodgers possession-based first eleven.
Out of 18 metrics analysed in the above tables, Daniel Agger came out a clear winner in 6 of that 18. Five of those six metrics were what you might call ‘battling statistics’, and referred to how often he was involved in them compared to his colleagues, the other metric was possession related. Skrtel was a clear winner in 8 of those stats measured, with Jaime Carragher coming out top in four.
None of Agger’s ‘accuracies’ were anything to get excited about, passing, long ball, ground duels, tackles, aerial duels, clearances etc were all average to say the least. However, he did excel in minutes per ground duels, aerial duels, interceptions and challenges.
Taking all that into account, if you never seen Daniel Agger play, and you looked at those statistics, you’d conclude he was more a battling centre half than a ball-playing centre half. So, is there a myth around this notion? And is Daniel Agger more style than substance? Or rather, more substance than style, based on these findings? And is it worth turning down £20 million plus for a player who had averaged starting 18.5 games per season over the last four seasons? You decide.
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Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
Nice analogy!
Missed out something stats cant show. We will be playing with a very high defensive line next year, and Agger is a very fast centre back. Also, your passing stats dont show this.. Skrtel passes it sideways to.Agger, Agger threads the through balls to the midfield. Agger plays more direct attacking balls, which are more likely to lose possession, thus bringing down his compketion rate. He also attempts a lot more long passes than Skrtel. The fact is, they work well together and they should both be kept.
It’s not true mate that Agger attempts more long balls. For example last year he attempted a long ball every 19.64 minutes, compared to Carragher who attempted one every 12.15 minutes. Skrtel also, he attempted one every 14.06 minutes last year. But, conversely he does attempt less backwards passes than his colleagues, as Andy pointed out below. Maybe the two cancel each other, only way to find out would be even more in depth analysis.
This is poor work, because it neglects the amount of time Agger spent sitting on the bench under Rafa and Hodgson. Hyypia and Skrtel kept him out of the side under Rafa, and Hodgson infamously neglected to use him.
Thanks for your constructive criticism! As regards to the statistics it doesn’t matter why Agger was left out of the team. Injury, not selected etc. The relevant stats are dividing by the amount of minutes each player played of the 4 year period, thus giving an even and balanced outcome. The fact is, and no one could deny this, Daniel Agger is injury prone.
The biggest issue has been the consistent injuries. Agger is often recognized for his offensive prowess and his cannon of a left foot. We don’t see that cannon used too often when he is on the pitch. That being said – 20+ million for him is a no brainer – despite the fact that I like him. The question becomes can Coates step up? We know JC’s time left is limited. (Thought the article was good)
Yes, but you are making him out to be injury prone based on stats that show games when he started. To see if a player is injury prone surely stats show how many games he was available for rather than games he started?
If you are going to try to prove he was injury prone you should at least use the correct measure. By your rationalisation I could easily say Winston Bogarde was injury prone during his time at Chelsea because the stats show he only started 9 games in 4 seasons.
Also injury prone players get a lot of muscle injuries, any man or woman alive can break a bone, which is why Agger has missed quiet a few games over the past 2 seasons (broken ribs).
How can you not know?? that Agger is injury prone?? he is prob injured, just as often as he is not!! i love Agger, but, rediculous money, for a player who don’t even play for half the season, is a complete no brainer!!
Don’t use shaming language, this is site supposed to be about stats, but it would be nice if the stats were used in context. You’ve not addressed any of my actual points, you’ve just made an irrational opinion.
27 league games last season – Not sure that is half a season, but if you want to believe it’s half a season go ahead.
“Courtesy of physioroom.com – Here is the defender’s injury record since early 2009 – A remarkably unlucky 17 injuries in four years. He may be one of the club’s best defenders when fit, but if Liverpool can get a huge bid for him, is it worth taking the cash and re-investing? It’s food for thought…”
(1)10/1/2009 Calf muscle strain; (2) 7/2/2009 Back injury; (3) 27/7/2009 Back injury; (4) 1/11/2009 Back injury; (5) 21/11/2009 Concussion; (6) 16/1/2010 Groin strain; (7) 1/3/2010 Knee injury; (8) 18/8/2010 Concussion; (9) 30/9/2010 Groin strain; (10) 12/10/2010 Back injury; (11) 20/10/2010 Calf muscle strain; (12) 25/2/2011 Thigh muscle strain; (13) 4/4/2011 Knee injury; (14) 20/9/2011 Rib injury; (15) 11/1/2012 Knock; (16) 18/2/2012 Knock; (17) 26/2/2012 Fractured rib.
“Compare this with fellow centre-back Martin Skrtel who in the same period suffered nine injuries plus a virus. We’re not saying Agger is injury prone but… 17 in four years is high.”
Source: http://hereisthecity.com/2012/08/02/17-injuries-in-four-years-liverpool-and-daniel-agger/
Look, I think Agger is supreme footballer, and I don’t want him to be sold. Even if we were to analyse the amount of games he was available for the point still remains. He hasn’t played as much as he should, for one reason or another, whether it be injury, fitness, left out etc, over the last 4 years. If Rafa, kept him out of the first eleven then he had good reasons. I’m inclined to concur with a European Cup Winning manager that they were the right reasons. So the question still remains for Brendan Rodgers and for others to decide….. would you take £28 million for a 28 year old player who has averaged playing 18.5 games over the last 4 seasons?
This is fine SM, but I dispute using games started as a stat for a measure of if a player is injury prone or not. Games available for is a much better stat. Sure I don’t disagree with Rafa maybe not playing him, but Roy Hodgson? dropped him because he didnt want to play left back and he did not agree with hoofing.
So your stat 18.5 games per season is what I am saying not a good judge to see how many actual games he would have been available for.
Also it seems comments from Gerrard and Rodgers last night indicate neither want him sold, but someone above does.
That’s fine Ash – not everyone is going to agree, if they did then the world would be a pretty boring place. It’s all about context. And games “available for” does give it more context. Could probably add games where he had just come back from injury but wasn’t available for the full game and needed to be eased back into the first eleven to it as well. Being available for a game doesn’t necessarily mean he could play the full 90 minutes. So many permutations…..
Interesting piece of work.
A note on the passing stats – I’ve researched a piece on Agger for The Tomkins Times (via EPLIndex of course!), and I noticed that Agger made the joint lowest proportion of his passes backwards in the whole Liverpool squad last season – just 6%.
That would probably explain why his passing accuracy is lower – fewer backpasses to Reina to bump up the numbers.
Nice one Andy – excellent statistic that! Maybe he passes forward too much for the new manager’s liking?
that is coz he’s a defender.. he has only the goalie behind him..
Interesting numbers Andy and great point. Agger only 6% of his passes backwards last year which would equate to about 63 backward passes compared to Carra’s 11% backward (about 87 passes) – difference of about 24 passes. Not much, but if that trend continued over 4 years it could equate to about 100 extra backward passes from Carra which would obviously make a difference. And if you brought Skrtel into the equation, last year 10% of his 1503 passes were backwards, around 150 passes, which again obviously over 4 seasons is a huge difference. It could easily make up the 2.4% difference in passing accuracy above between himself and Skittles.
Then again we’ve no way of knowing how many of those backward passes were actually easy back passes to the goalkeeper or maybe pressured passes back to a straggling full back etc! So many permutations!
These stats are really surprising and, if accurate, then the answer is a definitive NO. It is not worth passing up £20m for a player who only plays 18 games a season and produces stats like this.
Ash and Andrew make good points that your stats don’t encompass, but the 18 games per season indicates that he should be a squad player, a role that he would not accept, given the teams showing interest in him. A difficult problem that requires a resourceful manager and that is what FSG tell us BR is. Time will tell.
That’s true Fitz. I think the real killer point is his average games started over a number of years. And maybe it’s a bit of a luxury having him in the squad if someone is willing to pay over £20 million for him. That’s if those numbers continued into the new season. No way of telling though how many games he’ll start in the future. So selling or not selling a risk either way.
i would say it is hard to say what type of player someone is from statistics alone… as a ball playing defender he may attempt more long passes for instance, which may lead to more being given away, in your statistics, also as someone who is better at reading the game, does not mean that they will go in for more interceptions, but they will know which moments he can use to make the interception, where as someone who is less known for it, as they may be less good at it, they will probably go in more often, not knowing when to hold back, and to be fair i believe statistics like form are allowed to be looked at over 4 seasons, but playing time? I think that as Agger has progressed at the club, he has cut down his injuries, and he played much of last season, you cannot determine how many games he will play from previous statistics.
the fact that he has a lower percentage of tackles won is exactly what you would expect if he had the highest percentage of tackles attempted. he is around the ball more, so he has a better chance of losing a tackle.
One statistic that is kind of important is not included. Win % when they played. I got a feeling Agger is trumps on that one.
Have to disagree, John – too many other factors – ft’s horrible form, woy’s woeful tactics, the crossbar…
the statistics that actually matter are goals conceded when he played and when he did not play.
If people can excuse some minor self promotion….
http://basstunedtored.com/2012/05/29/liverpool-fc-201112-in-stats/
Last season in the league, Liverpool only conceded every 107 minutes that Agger was on the pitch, but every 71 minutes without him.
http://basstunedtored.com/2011/07/01/daniel-agger-retain-the-dane/
Daniel Agger finished 2010/11 on a personal run of 624 minutes without conceding a goal in all competitions.
http://tomkinstimes.com/2012/08/denial-agger-the-interceptor/
“For the whole of Kenny Dalglish’s second reign as manager, Liverpool conceded just 26 goals in the 3,505 minutes that Agger played. That equates to a goal against every 135 minutes, which is every game-and-a-half in other words”.
Should have read the comments before writing this blog at
http://footballthoughtsfromsweden.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/daniel-agger-in-20112012/
Now I spend almost an hour with numbers you already have Andrew.
(And sorry about my self promotion as well.)
I’d like to see the stats on goals conceded and points won with Agger in and out of the side.
I don’t know what stat can show how much better the LB and RCD look for having Agger play between them. Skrtel looked looked a very average CB until he improved from playing enough games with Agger. Enrique went so far backwards after Agger got injured it was frightening. From watching him play and how he improves those around him it’s clear Agger is by far our best defender, it’s just hard to measure the assuredness and calmness he brings to the team.
Personally I think he’s as important as anyone to our success when he plays, including Suarez.
The other side of that coin is of course his fitness record, how can we build a team around a player only ever likely to be available for 50-60% of games?
It’s a tough decision if an offer near £25m comes in, but from Barca not Citeh!
The really tough part is who to get to replace him?
0.75 – The average goals/game conceded by Liverpool with Daniel Agger starting compared to 0.96 per match without him. (via @OptaJoe).
My subjective stats-free view is certainly in line with most of our supporters, Agger is the best defender at the club by some distance, and he takes creative responsibility from the back that Skrtl and Carra are incapable of resulting in a much more fluent attacking play as well. Maybe not quite as good as Skrtel in the air, but almost, and much better than Carra who is zero threat at attacking set pieces. granted Agger hasn’t scored much on the last few years, but he’s been very close a lot of times. Carra is never even close.
More importantly the Agger/Skrtel partnership is not something you stumble across easily. They seem made for each other (in a non-gay way), and should not be broken up.
And another one from @DanKennett to prove his injury record is not as bad as some people make it out to be:
“07 was injury write off but in 06 he was available for 34 PL games, 30 in 08, 27 in 09 and 28 last yr”.
A lot of his non-appearances over the years are down to poor team selections from Hodgson and for periods of Rafa’s reign. It’s not Agger’s fault that Carra seemed to make best friends with every manager and a certain former MD who handed him a new contract the day before the takeover. Carra should be 4th choice at best. Every player reaches his sell-by date eventually, and with all due respect for his 700 games, Carra was always solid rather than class to in the first place. Coates is young and needs games as backup for Agger/Skrtel if he’s gonna develop. I really hope Rodgers ha the balls to place Carra where he belongs in the pecking order.
Here’s another good article on Agger by Liam Tomkins:
http://www.kopsource.com/why-liverpool-cant-afford-to-sell-daniel-agger/
Sorry about the lack of paragraphs. I did put them in, but the comment system removed them.
I completely agree that Agger is the best defender at the club. But it’s open to opinion whether he has BEEN the best defender at the club over the last number of years. Due to fitness, injuries, not being picked etc. A lot would say that has been Skrtel. Certainly if Agger had played 38 games a season over 4 years I’ve no doubt he would have showed he was the best defender in the Premiership. But the reality is, for whatever reason, he hasn’t. And the big question is, will he in the future?
They are great numbers by Dan, must have taken him a while to research them. And I take your point about being available for games. Maybe he hasn’t missed as many games as we would have thought due to injury. But does that alone make him not injury prone? According to this analysis he’s had 17 injuries in four years.
See Here: http://hereisthecity.com/2012/08/02/17-injuries-in-four-years-liverpool-and-daniel-agger/
(1)10/1/2009 Calf muscle strain; (2) 7/2/2009 Back injury; (3) 27/7/2009 Back injury; (4) 1/11/2009 Back injury; (5) 21/11/2009 Concussion; (6) 16/1/2010 Groin strain; (7) 1/3/2010 Knee injury; (8) 18/8/2010 Concussion; (9) 30/9/2010 Groin strain; (10) 12/10/2010 Back injury; (11) 20/10/2010 Calf muscle strain; (12) 25/2/2011 Thigh muscle strain; (13) 4/4/2011 Knee injury; (14) 20/9/2011 Rib injury; (15) 11/1/2012 Knock; (16) 18/2/2012 Knock; (17) 26/2/2012 Fractured rib.
If those numbers are correct, then it sheds some more light on the subject. It would say to me, that he’s injury prone when it comes to more short-term niggling injuries rather than long term. Also being available for games doesn’t necessarily account for games on the bench after coming back from injury when he’s not yet up to match fitness. So there are other factors to consider besides games started and games available for.
As for Carragher being ‘just’ solid, totally disagree. Istanbul, it was only one game, but he had plenty of those games over the years. Anyway, that’s a whole other debate!
Last 4 seasons: minutes per defensive error:
Agger 3,288
Carragher 1,812
Skrtel 1,204
(via @DanKennett on Twitter)
He’s a subscriber so it’s also via this website but yes these figures are correct.
*correction: every 6 games
Sorry about the multilinking but I had wrong headline in my first version. Editor are welcome to remove this version.